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TOS-R Screenshots/Video

“Arena” Screenshots and Video [UPDATED]

We have the usual assortment of old versus new, plus video clips of the blinking Gorn and new CGI!

 


Click the pictures for larger versions.

 

New Effects Video

 

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmtscGRK34Q[/video]
(wmv)

Old versus New


Old Cestus III


New Cestus III


Old Cestus III battlefield

 
New Cestus III battlefield…now with more crater and less tin foil!


The old Phasers

New Phasers

Old Enterprise flank shot

New Enterprise flank shot

Old Enterprise warp by

New Enterprise warp by


Old Gorn Ship (notice there is none)

New Gorn Ship


Closer view on Gorn Ship
 

Various New Shots


The redshirt gets it bad

Plasma scared survior

Spock is quietly saddened by Kirk’s orders to hunt down the Gorn

Scotty looks at the Metron

Kirk caught in the Gorn’s snare

The crew is told their captain is loosing the battle

A Metron
 

 

Discussion

72 comments for ““Arena” Screenshots and Video [UPDATED]”

  1. I like the eye blink! Can’t wait to see more shots… thanks for posting these!

    Posted by John N | October 21, 2006, 9:32 pm
  2. Thanks for the update!
    I’m trying to catch it on another channel. It usually blacked out. It’s on a half hour later! Doh!

    Posted by Ralph | October 21, 2006, 9:37 pm
  3. I also like the eye blink, but i am disapointed they kept the same red shirt disintigration effect.

    Posted by Lti | October 21, 2006, 9:46 pm
  4. To all SUPER-HARDCORE fans: IF you really and truly want to watch the updated Star Trek….then at least consider this option. What the heck?
    Get Dish-Networks West Coast package and watch it on channel - 235
    Thats the Denver channel (Channel 2 there!) They show it at these times.
    2:00 A.M. (Eastern Time) on a Sunday.
    Then they show the previous weeks episode on Saturday at 6:00 A.M. Eastern…it all digital and a decent picture. Blah….blah….blah….!
    Or Bonk…..bonk to the head…….Just kidding about the Bonk….bonk….Ok?

    Posted by Duane Boda | October 21, 2006, 9:50 pm
  5. Wasn’t the Metron shimmering enhanced, too?

    Posted by Aatrek | October 21, 2006, 10:00 pm
  6. I loved the new clear print - gorgeous colors throughout and very clear. I thought the final shots of the Enterprise heading to Cestus III were very nicely executed, and one ship insert at the beginning of an act also looked great.

    The eyeblinks were a nice subtle improvement, which they were careful not to overdo. The Gorn is such an impressive opponent, what with Ted Cassidy’s wonderful voicing, it really doesn’t need much help and there isn’t much one can do about the costume. The eyes were very shiny in this clean print, which I thought made him look that much more eerie.

    Keeping the Gorn ship barely in view matched the plot, so I’m not disappointed we didn’t get a closeup. Let it remain a mystery.

    The most distracting thing, evidently a by-product of a cleaned print, is the poor framing of the matte on the viewscreen as the crew watches the competition. It jostled up and down, with a blue line appearing and disappearing inside of the usual blue edge of the viewscreen. I wish they had cleaned that up with a wider screen border masking the matte errors. And what I presume are in-camera lens flares from the Metron’s outfit (especially noticeable to the left of him) are still there - that always annoyed me in the original show.

    But those are minor quibbles in a beautifully cleaned-up remaster. Kudos to Okuda and his team.

    Posted by Granger | October 21, 2006, 10:07 pm
  7. The wide angle shot of the Cestus III compound over which the title “Arena” appears has been fixed–the original was a horrible mess, with no sky above the buildings. Also in the first act, there are different views of the montains in the distance where the Gorns are hiding.

    And I love the blinking Gorn!

    Posted by tronnei | October 21, 2006, 10:59 pm
  8. Was the Metron sparkle enhanced? I wasn’t sure.

    And I totally agree about the viewscreen, the old poor compositing process is blatantly bad now. I figured that they would have fixed that, they’ve tweaked the viewscreen matte before as I recall.

    As noted in the intro, I’m really sorry I didn’t get the awsome new Cestus III planet orbit nor the new landing scene.

    Posted by Matt Wright | October 21, 2006, 11:14 pm
  9. I was just reading that the Metron sparkle was actually a result of lens flares due to the highly reflective costume and that they enhanced them rather than removing them. Quoted by Professor Moriarty with a link to trekhistory.com

    As for the Gorn blinking, I liked it. I didn’t really have a problem with the gorn allthough he was kinda lifeless, the blinking is a nice touch without going overboard…at least in my opinion.

    Posted by Anonymous | October 21, 2006, 11:45 pm
  10. ^ Also wanted to say the blue phasers look good too, hope they keep them a consistant color. Some were wanting them to change torp color for the different eps, hope they just choose one and keep it. Clicked “Say It” before I was done… :(

    Posted by Skippy 2k | October 21, 2006, 11:47 pm
  11. I dont think the Gorn blinked after his first reveal shot. Lame.
    As mentioned the viewscreen shots of the planetside action was horrid. Cestus III mountains looked alot like the Metrons
    arena planet mountains. No Metron solar system showing
    on the view screen that should be in the background of the Gorn ship. No new Metron lightshow on the viewscreen instead of the ’60’s lets drop acid color fx. What the hell are they paying those fx people for anyway? Couldnt make the Federation compound more impressive, moons in the sky? Couldnt show an exterior shot of the Enterprise getting hit by a Metron zap and losing power and start to coast? That shot of the Enterprise going warp 8 didnt give the impression it was at max speed, looked like it was just putzzin along. How fast is she going in the opening credits? Now thats max warp!
    Anyone remember the cgi Gorn on Enterprise?

    Extremely dissapointed.

    Posted by Roger | October 22, 2006, 12:10 am
  12. I just realized with the before after shots whats really wrong with the ship: Not highlights.

    For everyone wondering what makes this think look flat and cartoonish or at least what we mean by that is that the ship has midtones and shadows, but there are zero highlights. Look at the secondary hull in all the old shots, there is a bright highlight running parallel along the side. I shows the roundness of the object. It also has sharp edges because in real life nothing really fades from one brightness to another evenly. I think if the team learns this they’ll have some good images.

    Posted by Mark2000 | October 22, 2006, 12:20 am
  13. I do. Kinda between on the Gorn from ENT and the one from TOS. While the original is just a rubber suit, the Ent one was too cgi-like. It had more movement/action but it stood out to me. I generally try to look past the cg creatures, we all know there cg anyway but usually I think they do a very good job on the cgi. The ships looked great, they also had some better cg characters in the show. The TOS one while it was more real but it seemed kinda lifeless and it a couple of shots I remember kinda slow to move and swing its arms. Maybe it was difficult to see out of the suit and they didn’t want to actually knock shater around.

    While Ent would have used a cg gorn either way I wish it had been closer to the guy in the suit from TOS, maybe with just more movement.

    Posted by Skippy 2k | October 22, 2006, 12:22 am
  14. Ok, just saw the show. Still great! No glowing impulse because the ship is in warp during exterior shots. Blinking Gorn from the dusty world… cool.

    But I ‘ll tell you what. This would have been a great future movie concept. Can you imagine 1000 yrs in the future the Federation is in a peace of a 1000s yrs. Then a new threat emerges. The Federation negotiates peace talks with a deceptive race for peace. The Federation is suspicious of the peace talks but go thru with it. The race wants to eliminate the Federation of Planets and proceeds with their conquest. It looks like the end is near when on the horizon a glimmer… a glimmer of hope. A new species comes to the aid of the Federation. To bring them out of the brink of defeat. The Metrons battle the evil empire in a great battle along side the Earthlings and all species of the Federation. Its a great battle of magnificent magnitude. It’s like all of the Universe is involved. The Metrons put up a heroic battle to save the Federation. The battle settles at one last stand. The Metrons advances to the front to confront the evil for one last battle. The Battle of Armageddon.

    Posted by Ralph | October 22, 2006, 12:26 am
  15. Way to many omniscient beings in Trek lore(TheMetrons,The Q,
    Organians, Trelains race, Wormhole beings from Deepspace 9)
    The Q had wars! I wonder what happens when they run into each over? I bet theyre all snobs.

    Posted by Roger | October 22, 2006, 12:42 am
  16. Since I heard about the Remastered Star Trek I have been searching the internet for a good source information and images of what CBS are doing. Being a UK based Star Trek fan, we have had no word as to when or even if any channel over here will pick up these remastered episodes so I have found this site excellent for incite as to what they are doing. I have enjoyed reading the comments people have been making. Its seems to me that on the whole CBS are doing a good Job, but its not quite right yet, especially some of the ship shots. (although I loved the still frame shot of the Enterprise from I Mudd around the yellow planet breaking orbit).
    I have been a Fan of Star Trek for over 25 years and I have fond memories watching re runs of the show on BBC2 as a kid thinking it was the greatest thing ever. The stories are still great but the effect have badly dated although for some this is part of the quaint appeal, I for one am please at the prospect of what CBS are doing.
    I really hope that when they come to release this on DVD that they will go back and add a few more effects and tidy up some of the obvious things they have missed out. This project could be SO cool if they get it right. It sounds like they are going to go back eventually and I hope they do bother to make some or most of the changes the fans are suggesting. I would love to see all of the planets surfaces where they are obvious in a studio set have some backgrounds put in to give the look of theses strange new worlds some depth. I would have loved them to have created the whole head of the Gorn with more movement around the whole of his face. Maybe the shot of the Gorn ship being so far out in the distance was being to represent full to the original shot. They should go back and maybe have the same shot but then move the camera forward through the view screen and zoom in on the ship with the Metron solar system showing behind it.
    I am all for the changes in the effect and I don’t see it as disrespectful to the original effects team at all. I understand they have a tight demanding schedule to produce these episodes each week but I plead with produces, paramount, CBS, Dave Rossi or Mike Okuda or whoever has a say on this… Take you time to get it right. I have loved the updates on the small things like the new Normans inners and the dial from the naked time. I love the new matt paintings too. If you have a tight schedule to get these out each week and are missing out on doing things you love to do then make sure you go back and do them before you finish this project and put it out DVD. It will be a shame to have to wait another 40 years for some new updates when you have the chance and opportunity to do it now. I’m not a CGI man but I do work as graphic designer and have a keen eye for attention to detail. I just BEG you guys to take your time before you finish this project and also to go back to other episodes you have already aired where you know you could have done better with the ship and the little things. If you need an extra second here or there to show something off then do so I don’t think we are going to mind if the episode ends a second or too longer then it did before. By that I don’t mean change the story I just mean be a bit more daring with what you are doing. For example the Ultimate Computer, during the battle scenes you can still tie the sound to the new images still but if you want to show a shot of the battle you have thought up where it might not tie to the original sound then repeat the Sounds that phaser or torpedo would have made as you know from the other times we have seen or heard whatever weapon it is being fired.
    Saying all of the above I have a lot of respect for the what the CBS guys are doing and have already done , I just hope you can make what seems a good project into a great one
    with some awesome visuals that will stand the test of time for the next 20 years or so.
    Just make sure that when the final piece of work is done you are happy with what you have done and you don’t think I wish we had done that or we should have done this. Just make sure you do all that you want to do before you make the last change.
    Here’s hoping your still listening.
    Live long and prosper!

    Posted by Holo J | October 22, 2006, 6:08 am
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  18. This episode was sort of a mixed bag, the viewscreen bits are so easy to fix I can’t image why they didn’t do it. They didn’t even bother to remove the scratches on the film while the Gorn talks to Kirk while the Enterprise crew watches. The Gorn’s blink was cool.

    I think I was most shocked at how good the print looked when Kirk was standing on a rock and you could see his while long-johns under his tunic, and LACES oh his boots.

    I would give this updating about a 3 out of 10.

    Posted by Kelvington | October 22, 2006, 6:59 am
  19. ..college football ran over big time…and the local station here, in it’s infinite wisdom, decided to join the show, already in progress. As a result, I saw about half the episode. I did get to see the Gorn blinking, that was very cool. What can I say about the ship…the overhead shot was nice, I could even see the weathering, and the nacelle effect looked right, just the colors were off, I think the blades spinning should be more black shadows than orange stripes…but CBS knows this and thankfully are going back to the drawing board. But there was somthing about the way the Enterprise was moving at the end of the episode that just didn’t seem right. It has an odd awkward feeling about it as it enters the frame and moves away from the camera. But all in all, very enjoyable..I’m just sorry I missed the first 30 minutes, the ruins on Cestus III look great. Here’s a little trivia, if you want to see the fort again, in a western setting, with a great view of the Vasquez rocks just out of the front gate, check out the first season episode of The Wild Wild West , “Night of the Flaming Ghost”. I’m sure those very rocks are the reason the whole horizon was matted over.

    Posted by Jonboc | October 22, 2006, 8:06 am
  20. Ok….just one question. Isn’t that battle scenes with Kirk and the Gorn in the same general area where the batcave was for their 1960’s series?
    Also….for anyone living in that area where it was shot - can these places be easily traveled and viewed by the common public or is it private land now? What can be told about these area where you see Kirk running up the cliffs and so on? Thanks for any and all input on this. I appreciate it!

    Posted by Duane Boda | October 22, 2006, 8:17 am
  21. Extrait de l’épisode "Arena" de Star Trek Classic remasterisé….

    Extrait d’un épisode avec Kirk et Gorn.

    Dailymotion blogged video……

    Posted by Les nouvelles de Franzlola | October 22, 2006, 8:17 am
  22. for Duane Boda:

    Vasquez Rocks is a L.A. county park now.

    http://www.ponderosascenery.homestead.com/vasquez.html

    I was struck by how the ruined base is a pretty complex, large outdoor set, way too expensive to have been built on STAR TREK’s budget.

    This bit from the Trek wiki was informative:

    http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Arena

    “The fort set, retouched here with science-fiction trappings and location
    signs, can be seen in several early episodes of The Wild, Wild West, most prominently in the episode “The Night of the Sudden Plague.” This set was directly adjacent to Vasquez Rocks. One report is that it was originally constructed for the film Beau Geste. Another source identifies the fort as being built in the mid 1950s for the television show “Tales of the 77th Bengal Lancers” from Screen Gems, a Columbia Pictures subsidiary, erected at a cost of $117,843.17. The set was torn down several years later, but the large vacant footprint it left behind can still be seen at Vasquez Rocks State Park today. “

    Posted by planettom | October 22, 2006, 8:29 am
  23. Thanks for your efforts in posting the video and images Matt. I always look forward to them.

    Posted by Greg Stamper | October 22, 2006, 9:16 am
  24. Matt is the man!

    We hope to have more images and stuff up within 24 hours.

    Posted by Anthony Pascale | October 22, 2006, 9:21 am
  25. Ohhh. Cute little Gorn Ship! Ok… I think it will be larger when the Ep airs. Will it?
    But I still don’t like the Enterprise. It’s surface is way too smooth. I want some more details!

    Posted by Norbert Steinert | October 22, 2006, 9:29 am
  26. Overall, I’m pretty pleased withg this episode. Channel 2 in Denver cut out the Enterprise breaking orbit from Cestus III. I shot that was shown in the preview, why was it cut out??

    Agree with the poster above who mentioned that they put moons and bright stars in the sky. How hard would that have been?? They could have given Cestus III a real alien feel to it, also the asteroid Kirk fights the Gorn on would have benefitted from this as well.

    The new blinking effect looked quite good and the new Phaser and Photon Torpedo shots were great.

    Posted by Darin | October 22, 2006, 9:42 am
  27. I’m not sure ANYONE actually broadcast as part of the episode the shot of the Enterprise breaking orbit with the impulse engines lit, even though it was online and in a preview. My local station certainly did not air it. Can anyone verify that shot was aired in the episode on their station? If it wasn’t, then I wonder if that was a shot that would appear in the uncut DVD/HD version that will eventually be sold, or if it was just an insert for the episode preview.

    Posted by Granger | October 22, 2006, 10:14 am
  28. The Enterprise breaking Orbit was edited out of the episode sent out to all stations. Part of the “Chopping Process” get the running time down.
    It will return for the DVD/HD — what we saw in the Arena episode promo was a modified shot from last week’s “I, Mudd” featuring the Impulse Engines in operation.
    We were properly … “teased”.

    Posted by Greg Stamper | October 22, 2006, 12:15 pm
  29. Enjoyed it, but a few things:

    Gorn blinks - appreciated the simplicity of it, certainly easier than giving it “lizard eyes” and replacing the silver compound eyes. However, I felt that it didn’t blink enough. Only three or four times, by my count. I understand not wanting to overdo it, but c’mon. Also, his eyes should have been closed when he was knocked out by the boulder and then by the bamboo cannon.

    Viewscreen - incredibly distracting. Definitely needed fixing. I guess they just ran out of time.

    Gorn ship - I’m glad something was on the screen, but I would have liked to see it a little closer up.

    And I’m still holding out hope for a Klingon battle fleet in “Errand of Mercy.”

    Posted by ety3 | October 22, 2006, 1:09 pm
  30. Greg - thanks for the clarification on the teaser omissions.

    ety3, I must concur - the Gorn’s eyes should have been closed when he was knocked out. If the available shots worked out, they could then eerily open up after Kirk’s boulder attack as Kirk approached, thus heightening the tension and dismay.

    And I omitted in my initial review that yes, those new phaser shots were really great! Nice crisp beams with just enough spread and a gorgeous coloration - SO much better than the original ones in this episode.

    Next week I think Catspaw is up - now that should be a good Halloween treat! The best part of the remaster for me will be the final shots of Kolob and Sylvia sans puppet strings. Their weird appearance and smoking demise scared me mightily when I was a tyke.

    Posted by Granger | October 22, 2006, 1:45 pm
  31. ^^^
    Oops! Make that Korob, not Kolob. Love the guy, even if I can’t get his name right. ;-)

    Posted by Granger | October 22, 2006, 1:49 pm
  32. LOVE Catspaw!!!!
    Scared the crap out of me as a kid…

    :)

    Posted by dmack | October 22, 2006, 2:06 pm
  33. Upside: New ship’s phasers effect, initial Cestus III opening shots with crater and mountains, and Gorn blinking (but not enough), and I agree with the comment of when the Gorn should have had its eyes fully closed.

    Dowside: No improvement in Enterprise shots, still lack colored stars, viewscreen problems (noted many times on here), Gorn ship no more than than a little blob on viewscreen, problems in the speed of the Enterprise. At one point the stars on the viewscreen and moving very fast, follwed shortly by an external shot of the Enterprise where the stars are moving about 1/10th as fast. With more time, they could have added many nice touches to enhance this episode.

    I also agree with the comment about Errand of Mercy. This episode needs to show a Klingon (and hopefully Federation) fleet.

    Posted by EBAR | October 22, 2006, 6:15 pm
  34. Why didn’t they fix the sound effects? There are several early scenes where Kirk’s communicator doesn’t chirp when he opens it (at least twice) and Sulu’s key punching on the helm after he fires at the Gorn ship.

    Posted by Kaaaaahhhhhnnnn | October 22, 2006, 6:28 pm
  35. LOL, Kaaaaaaaahhhhhhhn, I noticed that too, seems like a simple fix there.
    I also thought the Gorn didn’t blink enough!!! When Kirk claps his hands over the Gorn’s “ears”, it would’ve been nice. Also, when the Gorn was downed by the canon, it’d been nice to see some alien blood and injury, as well, as lidded eyes. ;-D
    Other points that could have been jazzed up a bit… the mortar fire from the Gorns. The Gorn ship, of course.
    Honestly, though I was against CGI Gorn, damn, did I laugh my butt off at the intial Kirk/Gorn fight. IMHO, They shoulda tweaked the film speed there, and worked on some Gorn plasticity to his facial features and blending the head and body better, nothing too fancy.
    Most of the Enterprise shots were pretty good… but still room for improvement.
    And, the Gorn “voice”, what a hoot! :-D I kept thinking of Bender from Futurama for some reason.

    Posted by TomBot2006 | October 22, 2006, 8:18 pm
  36. That episode was wicked cool! Phasers and photons were awesome! Man I can’t wait for this new Enterprise!! Still some room for improvement, but you’re getting there!! Keep up the great work Okuda and Rossi!

    Posted by Spockariffic | October 22, 2006, 10:01 pm
  37. People who are expecting all new space ships in scene where they weren’t before are probaly going to be very disappointed. It takes mucho money to create new models for such ships, and also, because of the time restrictions imposed by syndication, there won’t be space for any additional scenes.

    It’s one thing to fix an old show; but it’s something else to *redo* an old show. And many fans don’t want to see what happened to Star Wars happen to Star Trek: too many things changed until it’s no longer what it was that made the shows great.

    Posted by The Doctor | October 22, 2006, 11:20 pm
  38. I would like to see more of the Gorn ship, even if it is a blop. There was atleast one more angle of it, please…….

    Posted by Thomas Svensson | October 23, 2006, 12:07 am
  39. Liked the Gorn blinks, very effective, but not done enough. Phasers, photon torpedoes, nice. The new BG on the wide shots, beautiful.

    But, since they are fixing things, HOW could they have let one glaring thing get by… When Sulu is hitting the buttons on the board in one scene, ther are NO sound effects, just, bap, bap, bap. It was an obvious oversight on the original show and one easily fixed when doing it now. Just a few button effects would have fixed it.

    I just don’t get it. Fix some things and not what they should.

    Posted by Diabolik | October 23, 2006, 6:36 am
  40. Here’s to Bobby Clark! The actor who WAS the Gorn!

    It’s great that he didn’t get replaced with horrid Enterprise-style CGI.
    LOVE the hot blue phasers- but that photorp…hmm..I have to check, but was the original effect in this ep. a red blob too?
    They really should standardize on white with a star-diffraction effect like the the majority of the original footage.

    Posted by Donn | October 23, 2006, 9:49 am
  41. That Gorn ship looked like a TIE fighter…LOL!!!

    I wish we could have seen the ship closer up…and something that is reptillian looking…or organic looking. I don’t imagine the Gorn ship having a real high-tech appearance…

    Posted by THETrekMaster | October 23, 2006, 10:08 am
  42. Oh and what was up with the viewscreen changing shape? The compositing on the viewscreen shots looked very bad in places…

    Posted by THETrekMaster | October 23, 2006, 10:09 am
  43. To answer a question asked above, the “Batcave” is located off Bronson Canyon in Hollywood, near the 101 freeway; Bronson Canyon is the beam down point at the beginning of “Bread and Circuses” but it’s not used in “Arena.” The Vasquez Rocks are past Santa Clarita on the 14 freeway, a 30-45 minute drive from downtown Los Angeles–and both sites are accessible to the public.

    The big frustration for me here was the deletion of the two big shots highlighted in the preview, the breaking orbit shot and another one showing the Enterprise and Gorn ship facing off. REALLY frustrating that we now have to wait until 2008 or something to see that on DVD. The Gorn blink was subtle (it WAS a green eyelid, not a white nictitating membrane as someone postulated earlier, although it’s so quick you’d have to watch it frame by frame to catch that)–they even seemed to make the Gorn’s eyes half-closed in a shot towards the end but this quickly switched to an eyes-wide-open shot so if there was an intended effect there it was lost. Phaser/photon torpedo effects were fine (yes, the original torpedo shot in the episode shows red torpedoes).

    Interesting question about a Klingon fleet for “Errand of Mercy.” I can’t imagine they would go that far, although they did create a Gorn ship where none existed before. The philosophy is to at least try to do shots somewhat in the style of the original and any kind of massive fleet shot would have been far beyond the capabilities of classic Trek (as would some of the panning motion control-style shots done in previous remastered episodes, but…). I have a feeling the most we’ll get in that area is in “The Ultimate Computer” because that episode DOES show four ships onscreen at once, the most the old show ever did.

    I’ll be interested to see Catspaw too. Obviously they’re going to do something with the aliens at the end, but what do you do about all the awful “giant cat” shots? They’re not going to create a CG monster cat and you just can’t help those original shots of an adorable black tabby too much.

    Posted by Jeff Bond | October 23, 2006, 10:32 am
  44. I’ve been to Vasquez Rocks…I recommend it.
    I went solely because Star Trek was shot there.

    I know…geek.

    THETrekMaster

    Posted by THETrekMaster | October 23, 2006, 10:51 am
  45. Did anyone notice the blood on the Gorn after Kirk hit him with his improvised cannon? Was that added or there in the original print? It might just have been visible now with the cleaner version. Any thoughts?

    Posted by Tiberius wannabe | October 23, 2006, 10:53 am
  46. I noticed the blood too. I can’t remember if it was there or not before… it looked new though. wow was it colorful.

    trekmaster, thats cool that you went to the vasquez rocks just because of this episode. thats committment and you can ride with my posse anytime.

    best!!

    =h=

    Posted by hitch1969© | October 23, 2006, 11:11 am
  47. Hey, what am I, chopped liver? I’ve been to Vasquez Rocks AND Bronson Canyon… :)

    Posted by Jeff Bond | October 23, 2006, 12:08 pm
  48. Yeah, I, like a dumbass, forgot to go to Bronson Canyon…oh well, another trip…LOL!!

    Posted by THETrekMaster | October 23, 2006, 12:41 pm
  49. The name is Bond. Jeff Bond.

    Dude of course you can be on the team. You are very 007 in the pants my vasquez rocks and chuck bronson visiting e-friend.

    I was watching the remaster with my kid yesterday. I was explaining to him about cestus 3 and the vasquez rocks and whatnot. He recognized the episode from Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey. He was the one that pointed out the Gorn blood to me. I had to show him the blinky eyes fo the Gorn too. He thought it was fakey but then conceded the gorn costume was pretty cool for late 60s. I mean what does the kid know, he’s only 10. He’s never laid down with a woman. He plays that XboX all day long and watches Viva La Bam. I think that he might be a pooftah but for now I give him the benefit of the doubt. He sure took a shining to the Metronâ„¢ though. Wait… I guess that was me. SORRY BOUT THAT SIR. thank you drive thru.

    best!!

    =h=

    Posted by hitch1969© | October 23, 2006, 2:45 pm
  50. again with the “pooftah” crap…?

    Posted by chris | October 23, 2006, 4:59 pm
  51. I didn’t see no Gorn blood, if there was it was damn subtle… I’ll admit I was doing something else at the time, but I have it recorded, so I’ll check it out again.

    Aother thing that would have been nice is a some tiny lil Gorns added to the skyline shots when Kirk and Co. where trying to pinpoint them, silouhettes would be fine.
    ;-D

    Posted by TomBot2006 | October 23, 2006, 5:01 pm
  52. hitch this is your last warning. derogatory comments about people’s sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity, etc are not OK here.

    Posted by Anthony Pascale | October 23, 2006, 5:08 pm
  53. exactly. This is supposed to be Trekmovie.com, not beer chuggin’bigots.com

    Posted by Ty | October 23, 2006, 5:33 pm
  54. The irony is seeing derogatory or bigoted comments AT ALL coming from a TREK fan. Most TREK fans are (or were….) myself included, “geeks” or “nerds” who usually grew up feeling a bit of stigma or discrimination by being all into SF etc….
    Most frat boy types, (the ones who usually would point out something like someone being a “pooftah” ) wouldn’t be caught dead watching Star Trek yet alone bothering to post to a website (the ultimate geek move!) about it so the irony here is pretty damned funny. ESPECIALLY considering the whole mesaage of Roddenberry and Trek and equality…
    “I’m a MANLY man! I drink beer, go hunting, make fun of queers and watch Star Trek…” Ummmm… which of these things does not belong?

    Posted by Chris | October 23, 2006, 6:13 pm
  55. Mr. Wright (I presume)…THANK YOU for adding that magnified shot of the Gorn ship. Nifty!

    Posted by Granger | October 23, 2006, 6:49 pm
  56. #55 Actually that was Tony’s doing he was able to get a better quality copy since I had technical issues :(

    Posted by Matt Wright | October 23, 2006, 7:29 pm
  57. For those wondering, the blood on the Gorn is in the original version. It shows up a lot better in the remastered version.

    Posted by Darin | October 23, 2006, 8:21 pm
  58. On the Enterprise views screen, the footage of Kirk on the planet, it has scratches on it, it’s my only gripe.

    Posted by Anonymous | October 23, 2006, 9:01 pm
  59. Please! If you don’t want to show the Gorn ship or don’t have the money to do so… don’t insult us like this by showing a pixel-ship on the viewscreen. At least now I know what to expect from the Orion ship from Journey To Babel.

    That was a dissappointment!

    Posted by Norbert Steinert | October 24, 2006, 3:21 am
  60. From afar I thought it was Vaders TIE-Fighter in which he escaped the destruction of the death star.

    I’m beginning to think the whole Makeover was a mistake. I’m sure some fans or EdenFX would make a far better work. It was a mistake to keep close to the original. We already have an original. Don’t remake it. Try something new that fits into the episodes. Different angles of the ships for example and less “snowflake” stars (or better… none at all !)

    Posted by Norbert Steinert | October 24, 2006, 6:53 am
  61. After the Gorn ship in this episode, I’m giving up hope for anything any different in “Journey to Babel” or “Errand of Mercy” or any other show where budget prohibited showing a new ship.

    Posted by Diabolik | October 24, 2006, 8:12 am
  62. I want a Gorn costume!
    Where can I get one for Holloween!!

    Posted by Kirk Work | October 24, 2006, 8:24 am
  63. There is also a great overhead shot of the saucer section of the Enterprise…Can you add it? It occurs at 30:08 into the DIVX version posted on USENET. The ending credits view of the Enterprise is also nice.

    Posted by KT | October 24, 2006, 12:13 pm
  64. they did show a teeny ship on the viewfinder. Looked a bit like a tie fighter

    :)

    Posted by dmack | October 24, 2006, 12:57 pm
  65. Posted by Matt Wright | October 24, 2006, 4:09 pm
  66. WOAH! I didn’t see that shot here in the bay area!

    Posted by dmack | October 24, 2006, 5:04 pm
  67. Matt, that sure looks like the shot I recall. I like it a lot, except for the…you guessed it!…nacelle tips.

    I find it interesting that they chose to light all four upper hatches/lights, since on the actual 11-foot model only three of the four upper hatches were lit - the fourth was just drawn on. But lighting all four makes sense for the remastering.

    Web reference regarding unlit panel:
    http://members.aol.com/WMccullars/GemKirk27.html

    Posted by Granger | October 24, 2006, 6:56 pm
  68. I think the remastering is getting better and better. I’m glad they acknowledge that they need to go back to the drawing board in regards to the Enterprise.

    But what gets me is trying to watch these cut down versions. Eliminating so many minutes to fit modern day commercial requirements means such a great loss to the story. While watching “Arena”, I could see plainly all the areas where trims were done. I was so disappointed that all the talk on the Bridge while the Enterprise was chasing the Gorn ship was cut. In the uncut version (of the original), Kirk keeps ordering increased Warp speeds and intercut are reactions from the crew. It shows the viewer that the original Enterprise was not really designed to travel at Warp 8 (whereas Enterprise D could travel Warp 9 with no problem). In the remastered cut down version, there is a blend-edit and all of a sudden Kirk orders Warp 8 and we see Sulu’s reaction. This is out of context for anyone who never saw the ep. before since Sulu’s reaction is based on previous Warp speed increases.

    Anyway, I’m rambling and don’t mean to be…. the thing that will make all of this work out will be the future DVD releases of all episodes that were remastered…. plus I’m assuming there will be lots of DVD extras.

    Posted by AlwaysLovedTrek | October 24, 2006, 8:29 pm
  69. The weird thing is that the “new” phasers look almost exactly like what I think I remember them to be. The real screencap of the original phasers are a letdown, by comparison. Bring on the phasers!

    Can’t wait to see it uncut on DVD!

    Posted by Ron Jon | October 24, 2006, 9:58 pm
  70. Let’s hope your right and they offer alot MORE Xtra’s 68.
    I am already hooked by this set of remaster series.

    Posted by Going ON 69!! | October 24, 2006, 9:59 pm
  71. Matt, that’s the saucer shot! Thanks!

    Posted by KT | October 25, 2006, 6:08 am
  72. The reason why you didn’t see the saucer shot in the screenshots this week is that it is a reuse from Balance of Terror. You can see that my link is even from my screenshots when I did Balance of Terror remastered a few weeks back.

    Posted by Matt Wright | October 25, 2006, 9:33 am

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